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Title: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on May 11, 2017, 07:12:10 am
Well it's started already and moved underway  - don't think this Wilder geezer knows what he's doing. Doesn't he know we always leave things until the last minute to keep the players guessing and on their toes.....none of this early season signing nonesence.........

Anyway, here's the thread to talk about them.

Names banded about or signed so far:

Chefd Evans - done deal

Enda Stevens - https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/974149/enda-stevens-lands-championship-move-as-sheffield-united-swoop-for-portsmouth-star/

Erhun Otzhumer - god he's been a pain in the arse for us. Nice to have him on this side https://youtu.be/WZZur835hKk

Nathan Thomas https://youtu.be/QdnhZ6VVloY https://twitter.com/SkySports_Keith/status/862310794582786049

Even heard rumours of Jags

What you heard?



Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 11, 2017, 12:44:49 pm
'Boro are after Thomas and have matched our bid. Thomas moves from non-League to the Championship on more money than we can offer and he doesn't have to move house. I'd say if 'Boro want him, he's going to be theirs. Could be paper talk though.

Otzumer? Feckin yes please!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 11, 2017, 01:26:33 pm
Here's what I've heard so far in addition to the ones below:

Adam Smith (GK from Northampton)

Ricky Holmes (the Twitter account source looked a bit fake to me tbh)

Ched Evans (or did I miss somat?)  :DD

Done plus cash for Rotherham's Ward (admittedly I think I may have started that rumour on Twitter  :-[)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 11, 2017, 08:05:22 pm
Millers definitely interested in Done

Brizzle Rovers after Sparky along with Pompey, Hibs and Hearts.

Ricky Holmes - plenty in that one, well away from Twitter. Good player, cracking free-kick he dropped in against us an' all. He just needs a haircut. That sumo-style top-knot does my bloody nut in (only because I don't have any hair to do ridiculous things with).
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on May 12, 2017, 08:41:05 am
'Boro are after Thomas and have matched our bid. Thomas moves from non-League to the Championship on more money than we can offer and he doesn't have to move house. I'd say if 'Boro want him, he's going to be theirs. Could be paper talk though.

Well if it means we get Harry Chapman...........
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 12, 2017, 06:38:12 pm
Vamps - the 'Boro deal's broken down because the player's told Hartlepool he wants to come to us! Sounds like the perfect CW player  ;D
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Saigon Blade on May 12, 2017, 07:30:09 pm
Lings--Text now saying that the Thomas guy from Pool is having a medical at the :DD Lane in the morning
    Its good news week..AGAIN.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 12, 2017, 08:55:48 pm
I heard it would be Mon/Tues but it's all good news mate - seems an in-demand player and we're at the head of the queue.

Now - Otzumer please!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 14, 2017, 08:40:52 pm
CW said he wants 2 CBs a winger and a right back... Sounds like he's happy with the central midfield and up top.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 15, 2017, 10:39:57 am
O'Shea's turned down a 2 year contract offer and left the club
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 15, 2017, 10:58:01 am
O'Shea's turned down a 2 year contract offer and left the club
I'm going to give the lad the benefit of the doubt and assume he's turned it down because he was told he was only going to be a squad player.  If true, then credit to him wanting to be at a club where he'll get regular games.

On the other hand, he may have turned the offer down because it wasn't enough money for him - in which case he can crappity-smack off the greedy bugger.  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 15, 2017, 10:59:11 am
Regarding Thomas, this is a win-win scenario for us.  As (I think) Vamps said, if Boro did outbid us and win his signature, then they won't also want Chapman, so we may get him instead.  I'd settle for that.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 15, 2017, 01:55:32 pm
Looking good for Thomas and Stevens. Just need Otzumer and a CB.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 15, 2017, 04:12:46 pm
Nathan Thomas done deal

On OS now
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 16, 2017, 04:38:29 pm
What are your general thoughts on Ched coming back?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 16, 2017, 04:58:50 pm
What are your general thoughts on Ched coming back?
From a purely football point of view I can see the attraction. If he can find the form he had in his last season for us, together with Sharp we could have a terrifying strike force and at only 100k rising to a possible 500k it's relatively little financial risk.  If he can't find his form I'm guessing he'll be on his way soon enough.

We could have easily signed an unknown quantity for 2-3m and they turned out to be useless.  We could have signed Ward from Rotherham for a million for example, but who's to say he'd score for us.  We could have signed Jordan Rhodes for 10 million  :DD :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 16, 2017, 05:22:29 pm
What are your general thoughts on Ched coming back?
From a purely football point of view I can see the attraction. If he can find the form he had in his last season for us, together with Sharp we could have a terrifying strike force and at only 100k rising to a possible 500k it's relatively little financial risk.  If he can't find his form I'm guessing he'll be on his way soon enough.

We could have easily signed an unknown quantity for 2-3m and they turned out to be useless.  We could have signed Ward from Rotherham for a million for example, but who's to say he'd score for us.  We could have signed Jordan Rhodes for 10 million  :DD :DD
I look at it this way, Ched has had a season of conditioning whilst picking up minor injuries. He's scored an average of 1 in 4 which isn't bad for a player in a relegation side. His conditioning should improve pre season and I think Wilder will get the best out of him. Also, like you say it's a small risk and could give us an awesome strike force.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 17, 2017, 07:58:05 am
If you look back at Evans' goals for us, he tends to take chances.  He can score equally with his left or right foot.  If there's one, very minor and picky, criticism you could make of us last season, it was we missed a heck of a lot of chances...  I think CW can see Ched snatching a few of these missed chances up.

On Sharp, I know he's going to be 31 turning 32 next season, but he looked fitter last season than he has for a while and, pardon the pun, sharper.  With someone like Lavery or Chad doing the running for him, Sharp can focus on what he does best - poaching in and around the penalty box.

I still think Sharp has a lot to offer in the championship, despite what the piggies are trying to say...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 17, 2017, 03:20:49 pm
If you look back at Evans' goals for us, he tends to take chances.  He can score equally with his left or right foot.  If there's one, very minor and picky, criticism you could make of us last season, it was we missed a heck of a lot of chances...  I think CW can see Ched snatching a few of these missed chances up.

On Sharp, I know he's going to be 31 turning 32 next season, but he looked fitter last season than he has for a while and, pardon the pun, sharper.  With someone like Lavery or Chad doing the running for him, Sharp can focus on what he does best - poaching in and around the penalty box.

I still think Sharp has a lot to offer in the championship, despite what the piggies are trying to say...

Who gives a feck what the piggies think......I think we'll have a decent strike force, with options in Sharp, Hanson, Lavery and Evans....what the piggies fail to realise is that it's not all about the forwards, it's also about the quality of the final pass into them. Yes you have to be good enough to put the ball away but if you don't get the right ball you can't score.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 17, 2017, 03:52:25 pm
With the strikers we have, and the service they'll get, we'll do very nicely next season. We just nmeed someone to step up to the plate because we can't rely on Sharp like we did this season.

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 18, 2017, 10:06:36 am
Relied on Sharp? He went seven games without a goal towards the end of the season and I think we won all 7  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 18, 2017, 12:13:43 pm
Without Sharp's goals we'd have scored 62, or 1 more than Bury, so we'd just have squeaked survival  :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 18, 2017, 04:14:24 pm
McNulty and Doyle both going to Coventry.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 18, 2017, 07:10:19 pm
Without Sharp's goals we'd have scored 62, or 1 more than Bury, so we'd just have squeaked survival  :whi

He was also the only striker to get regular games, we will need that from him again AND from his striking partner.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 19, 2017, 01:26:01 pm
As long as our full-back bags another hatful we'll be OK  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 20, 2017, 03:39:15 pm
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blades/sheffield-united-bid-for-holmes-confirmed-as-blades-close-in-on-stevens-1-8552898

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on May 21, 2017, 09:45:27 am
Not convinced we need another winger / striker. I wouldn't see him starting many games with what we currently have available.

Enda Stephens will be a good signing. I've seen him play twice for pompey at Accrington and he played very well.

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 21, 2017, 03:05:55 pm
Duffy's getting on a bit, O'Shea's gone, Champman's gone, Done's been transfer-listed and will go, so actually Bolts I think we do need one or two wide players. I think Thomas will get a lot of game time.

Agreed on Stephens, very nice addition if we can get it over the line.

Ricky Holmes. Lose the feckin' top knot and get signed!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 22, 2017, 10:00:56 am
I think it depends on how and what formation we're planning to play next season.

If we're going to stick with 5-3-2 (3-5-2 depending on your viewpoint) and deploy wing-backs, the wide role is pretty defunct, or at best a bench role when we need to switch to 4-4-2 second half to break down teams who park the bus (which judging by the play off games is going to happen a lot).   I think Thomas will be deployed in the O'Shea role, as an impact player, just behind the front two rather than an out and out winger.

Keeping a winger who spends most of his time on the bench happy is going to be a tough one, so maybe loans is the best way to go in that regard?

Personally, I think Carruthers should be capable to replace Duffy when the time comes. Holmes gives us options there too.

Agreed that Stephens would be a good signing. In fact, that should be the "Enda" that debate  :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 22, 2017, 01:00:44 pm
get yer coat!



Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on May 22, 2017, 04:12:07 pm
get yer coat!

QUICKLY....
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on May 22, 2017, 04:48:34 pm
Enda Stevens signing confirmed. Good move by CW.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/886709235?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 22, 2017, 07:44:15 pm
I'm all for getting these good lads in from the lower lges but we really need to be getting a couple of Championship lads in, our sheik owner stated there would decent investment in the team once we got back in the championship and we need some experience of that lge, and that costs.

 On another note, who does everyone think can cut it in the championship and who may struggle.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on May 22, 2017, 08:06:42 pm
I'm all for getting these good lads in from the lower lges but we really need to be getting a couple of Championship lads in, our sheik owner stated there would decent investment in the team once we got back in the championship and we need some experience of that lge, and that costs.

Kinell Stabo, it's not even June yet  :whi

It's an interesting point though....to be honest, such has been Wilder's influence to date that I'm just happy to trust his judgement. I think like last season he just wants to get the right blend of players who fit his team ethos and who are hungry and determined. As we know to our cost, established higher league players can be feckin awful and a destructive influence on the squad. I'm sure CW has his targets and it is very early days yet!

On who may struggle next season, I just think we need to tighten up at the back, so a strong CB or two would be ideal signings.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 22, 2017, 08:52:56 pm
I'm all for getting these good lads in from the lower lges but we really need to be getting a couple of Championship lads in, our sheik owner stated there would decent investment in the team once we got back in the championship and we need some experience of that lge, and that costs.

Kinell Stabo, it's not even June yet  :whi

It's an interesting point though....to be honest, such has been Wilder's influence to date that I'm just happy to trust his judgement. I think like last season he just wants to get the right blend of players who fit his team ethos and who are hungry and determined. As we know to our cost, established higher league players can be feckin awful and a destructive influence on the squad. I'm sure CW has his targets and it is very early days yet!

On who may struggle next season, I just think we need to tighten up at the back, so a strong CB or two would be ideal signings.

No time to sit and ponder you have to get on with it, which is what CW is already doing.  I agree we don't want big time Charlies and CW has done things in the right way, even players that he signed and haven't worked out so ye I trust him. I agree that we need to strengthen at the back, just in case we don't hit the net as often as we did this season.

I also wonder what's going to happen with Brayford....not sure Burton have the funds to sign him, then aagain I don't know what's left on his contract.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on May 22, 2017, 09:37:39 pm
I think that Brayford has another year left so he's ours to use or loan/sell on.

Given Freeman's form last season, Brayford won't be a guaranteed starter and whilst very useful to have in the squad, the RWB spot isn't priority IMO so I think we should move him on again - I think he will be on a fairly hefty wage so we could do with losing that to free up some dosh for the CB positions.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 23, 2017, 12:24:53 am
Couple of points on transfers:

1. He's getting it done EARLY! None of this last minute window-closing bollocks. Great stuff CW - get your entire side, or as close to it as possible, in the door from Day One of pre-season. Love it.

2. While I agree that a sprinkling of Championship experience wouldn't go amiss, and I'm sure that might still happen, especially at the back, we have to remember that the lower league guys will bust a gut for SUFC and for CW. They've seen at first hand what he can do with players and they'll all want  to be a part of what he's trying to achieve.

CW 5/1 to take over at Sunderland. They've more chance of signing me!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 23, 2017, 03:51:02 pm
Here's my yay, nay or undecided in response to the question who could cut it in the Championship.  This is based on having a squad that can survive maybe finish mid-table.  If we're seriously looking to challenge for promotion in the first year, then I think we'd need to strengthen more.  I've ignored the new signings for now.

Moore - yay
Long - nay

Freeman - yay
O'connell - yay
Wright - undecided
Lafferty - yay
Bash - yay

Fleck - yay
Coutts - yay
Duffy - undecided (too old/slow?)
Carruthers - yay
Reed - nay (not yet)

Lavery - yay
Sharp - yay
Hanson - undecided
Clarke - undecided (if he can keep the form in the last 7 I'd say yay)

On this basis, up top is a bit lightweight beyond Sharp unless Evans an rekindle that 35 goal form.

With Stephens doubling up at LWB with Lafferty and assuming Bash is deployed in the back, then think we need another CB in the Wright mould (i.e. organiser) but younger.

Midfield looks a little light though we can add Thomas in there.  If Fleck or Coutts get injured we're starting to struggle, so another central midfielder wouldn't go amiss.  If Holmes comes in we've got Carruthers, Duffy and Holmes competing for the CAM role, I don't see Carruthers being able to dot he Fleck role or the Coutts interceptor role.





Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 23, 2017, 05:26:28 pm

Duffy is 31 and too old/slow but Billy Sharp's 31 and is OK? I think Duffy will do just fine in the Championship.

The rest I'd agree with, although I'm happy with Clarke now he's clearly over his injury problem, which is basically what you said anyway


EDIT: You cannot question Jake Wright's inclusion until his "never lost when playing for the Blades" record is broken  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on May 23, 2017, 05:38:03 pm
EDIT: You cannot question Jake Wright's inclusion until his "never lost when playing for the Blades" record is broken  :ok:

We thought that Wright would be a squad player/back up last season because he was too old...... :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 23, 2017, 08:52:38 pm
Is that the Royal we mate?  :DB
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 24, 2017, 09:59:06 am

Duffy is 31 and too old/slow but Billy Sharp's 31 and is OK? I think Duffy will do just fine in the Championship.

EDIT: You cannot question Jake Wright's inclusion until his "never lost when playing for the Blades" record is broken  :ok:

The difference between Duffy and Sharp is that Duffy couldn't last 90 minutes in League One - age has nothing to do with it - fact is Sharp is fitter than Duffy and Duffy's game is different anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I think Duffy has an important role to play, but as an impact player (either as a starter or finisher). 

Without taking anything away from Jake Wright, I think the other 10 around him had a lot to do with his unbeaten record.  As we only lost 6 all season, there are quite a few players who were only involved an a handful of losses.  However, this does influence why I'm undecided.  Logic tells me he's not a "strong" championship player, but the stats tell a different story.
 
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 24, 2017, 10:37:31 am
Wright's record includes the last 8 games of the previous season as well. He's more of a talisman than O'Connell's hat!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on May 24, 2017, 02:35:48 pm
If Wright/O'Connell/Bash CB trio is good enough for the Championship I'll gladly admit I was wrong and eat Jack O'Connell's magic hat, but for me, right now, Wright does look like the obvious position to improve on.  I know it sounds crazy looking at his record...

Initial bid for Ryan Leonard rejected by Southend.

I've sussed CW's strategy now... Just buy the player of the season from every team in the division below us.  Good job he knows what he's doing.  :ok: :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 24, 2017, 10:57:43 pm
I think Wright's good in a 3 at the back but not in a 2. I think we'll bring in a CB before long anyway but it wouldn't surprise me if Wright kept his place until that first defeat
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on May 25, 2017, 04:02:53 pm
Is that the Royal we mate?  :DB

No mate............I would have said "One would have thought that Wright would be a squad player......."  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 25, 2017, 10:59:32 pm
Is that the Royal we mate?  :DB

No mate............I would have said "One would have thought that Wright would be a squad player......."  :ok:

You're a one alright  :DB
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: EMVBlade on May 26, 2017, 04:19:41 am
Morning/Afternoon/Evening Blades!!!!!

FFS you REALLY should change the locks.  :whi

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Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 26, 2017, 01:11:52 pm
Hello Bigfoot!

 :DB :DB :DB
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 28, 2017, 01:40:01 pm
So Sam Allardyce has recommended Crystal Palace consider CW for their new manager!  )O( )O( )O(

Allardyce and Parrish can both do one

However, McCabe and HRH Matalan need to get CW tied into a new long-term contract with a £513m release clause


On another matter, it does seem that CW has a position in his formation for wingers. Thomas can play there and now we're supposedly trying to tie-up a loan move for Celtic winger Gary Mackay-Steven.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Saigon Blade on May 29, 2017, 06:11:24 pm
Evening Guys--Can anyone tell me the rules regarding players who have a contract with their present clubs-- For example....If we agreed to buy Ewbanks-Landell--do we have to pay Wolves the
 3 and a half year contract hes on--plus the transfer fee?.Often wondered about this?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 29, 2017, 06:45:07 pm
Evening Guys--Can anyone tell me the rules regarding players who have a contract with their present clubs-- For example....If we agreed to buy Ewbanks-Landell--do we have to pay Wolves the
 3 and a half year contract hes on--plus the transfer fee?.Often wondered about this?

The club holds the contract so puts a price on the player, the club wishing to buy the player will put a bid in and either it's accepted or rejected, negotiations then normally take place. The players agent will negotiate players wages, contract length and agent fee etc with the buying club.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 29, 2017, 07:38:44 pm
Saigon - no mate there's a price, and we pay or we don't. The fact that he has a contract increases the price but only because it means Wolves aren't under pressure to sell him. There's no connection to having to pay up any salary remaining in the contract because if Wolves are happy to sell, it means the liability of the remainder of the salary element in the contract is gone with the sale.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Saigon Blade on May 30, 2017, 11:08:27 am
Thanks for your answers Stabo and Lings :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on May 30, 2017, 03:33:20 pm
Thanks for your answers Stabo and Lings :ok:

You're welcome!  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on May 30, 2017, 07:11:32 pm
Thanks for your answers Stabo and Lings :ok:

usual fee applies
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 06, 2017, 07:44:06 am
Latest rumours I'm hearing/reading about... Don't shoot the messenger.


EDIT: Forgot to add - Walker to sign for Man City for 40m this week.  If people are right we get 10% of the profit.  Also rumour Maguire going to Everton for 15m and we get 15% of the profit on that deal too.

That could bring in an additional 5m revenue, and I believe there's another payment due for DCL due to appearances and his extended contract.  Internet says we get 7m TV money next year too, and rumour has it we've sold 18k season tickets, so another 5m there. So we're already up by 17m.  We could almost buy Jordan Rhodes! FFS! We're almost massive!  :ok: :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on June 06, 2017, 09:14:19 am
James Wilson back to Bristol City is being touted...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 06, 2017, 11:14:31 am
Cyrus Christie, right-back, as is Riley, Freeman, and Brayford

I would think, from that lot, Brayford will be off-loaded somehow, and Christie/Riley will be an either/or situation

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on June 07, 2017, 09:46:46 pm
No new signings for weeks............WTF is Wilder doing??? Get the feck out, useless lying tosser  :whi :whi :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on June 11, 2017, 08:53:29 am
A couple of bits of the news boards.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/889368107?-295:800:0

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/889339835?-295:800:0

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/889339253?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on June 11, 2017, 09:32:20 am
David Brooks scores in final of Toulon Cup, and is named man of the tournament.

Does this mean he will become a transfer target?

Will he still go out on loan to Chesterfield as planned, or stay at BL?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 11, 2017, 01:41:33 pm
Pretty sure the deal with Chezzy's done mate. I hope we have a recall clause from January!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Saigon Blade on June 12, 2017, 06:34:43 pm
Hi there,  Can anyone tell me that if CW signs this Celtic guy Mackay Stevens..Will we have lost interest in Ricky Holmes? Or even the Southend guy..I seem to be lost in midfielders and wingers  and wingers postions at the moment- Hope someone can fill me in.. No thanks Lings- ;D :^^
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 13, 2017, 01:19:20 pm
Saigon: Leonard's a defensive midfielder, a bit like Monty but with a pass/shot, and I can see a need for someone like him. Mackay-Stevens is generally thought of as a winger, hopefully for the other side to where Thomas plays, and Ricky Holmes can play the "Number 10" role to great effect.

On that basis, CW's probably after all three!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on June 13, 2017, 05:05:23 pm
Has anyone heard of this??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/889692401?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 13, 2017, 05:20:03 pm
Confirmed on OS, another solid signing
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on June 14, 2017, 08:37:50 am
Has anyone heard of this??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/889692401?-295:800:0

Quality signing but is he just gonna be cover for Freeman? I don't think Freeman put a foot wrong this season and is certainly one of the squad I'd have said was capable of playing at Championship level. Is Baldock any better?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 14, 2017, 09:04:46 am
Think he just wants 2 good players for every position mate. I'd certainly start with Freeman.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 14, 2017, 12:09:49 pm
I agree with Lings.  Assuming Brayford isn't coming back, we're a bit thin at Right Back (or were).

Someone touted Brayford as a possible CB but I can't see it personally, I think his days are numbered.  Although I find it a bit strange that there's very little mention of him either by Burton or us...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 14, 2017, 03:10:40 pm
Seems to have been confirmed that Maguire has joined Leicester for 17m.  We sold him for 3m, so Hull's profit is 14m and we get 10% of that, so 1.4m.

Now what we need is Walker to Man City for 60m as rumoured and, assuming his part of the Naughton/Walker deal cost Spurs 3m, then we could get another 5.7m there.

We apparently get 7m in TV money and we've sold 5m worth of season tickets. So by my reckoning CW's war chest is now at about 19m... Yeah, right...  )O( :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 14, 2017, 06:17:21 pm
Daniel Levy will sell Walker for a "disclosed" figure way below what he actually gets, or the fee will be split into various other "non purchase fee" elements. He has form for this type of shenanigans so I wouldn't hold your breath. We'll certainly get a payment, but probably nearer £1.5m - £2m than £5m
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 17, 2017, 08:08:18 pm
Scougs joins St Johnstone

Always loved Scougall, hoped he could have done well with CW but ultimately it wasn't to be. He gave us a great moment at Wembley, and a massive laugh when that Bradford dude picked him up and bodyslammed him for "being annoying".

All the best Scougs, only 24, still time for him.

Spurs need to sell Walker now because Everton will certainly want a fee for Jagielka  :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 20, 2017, 08:24:09 am
Now that we're in the Championship the number of fake sports news accounts on Twitter seem to have quadrupled, along with the bullshit rumours they push as real stories...

So far, yesterday alone, I've seen fake news suggesting:


Bear in mind these are actual headlines and links to actual real looking news stories, with headlines, photo, dodgy sources the lot.  Some sad people go to a lot of effort to get clicks.

I think I'll just have faith in Chris Wilder and see what happens.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on June 20, 2017, 01:52:58 pm
I read that CW did approach Everton and Jags but the wages would be the stumbling block. Let's face it, Jags is more likely to go to one of the relegated PL teams, or a smaller PL team, they have the money for his wages and we don't. We have to remember they would impact on us with our wage bill and the fair play rules.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 20, 2017, 06:15:20 pm


  • Jags return is a done deal
  • Jags agreed personal terms
  • Jags had a medical at the Lane
  • Jags just had to agree personal terms

Yes, but has the kit man printed his shirt yet?  :whi

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on June 20, 2017, 07:25:37 pm


  • Jags return is a done deal
  • Jags agreed personal terms
  • Jags had a medical at the Lane
  • Jags just had to agree personal terms

Yes, but has the kit man printed his shirt yet?  :whi


 :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 23, 2017, 04:34:51 pm
We're still talking with Everton...................
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 24, 2017, 01:32:00 pm
Latest rumours from various places:

Formal approach made to Wolves for EEL.

David Brooks loan to Chessie now not going ahead (from a Chessie director on Twatter)

We've met the asking price for Leonard (rumoured to be 500k) and now discussing personal terms.

Fee agreed with Charlton for Holmes, but personal terms negotiations stumbling as CW has insisted the top knot fucks off because its frankly girly..  :whi

And no, kit man hasn't printed any shirts yet :DD

And as per other thread, if you spunk money then you're basically a complete and utter banker...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 26, 2017, 11:34:55 pm
Brooks to Everton as a makeweight for Jagielka

Suddenly the deal looks doable
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 27, 2017, 01:00:45 pm
Alex Bruce training with the Blades to "improve his fitness"

New CB along with EEL return? Wilson on his bike?

Brayford's on his way out the door as well

Jake Wright offered a new deal, so his "never been on the losing side" record will be broken in his first game  :roll:

Seriously, I like Wright, not the most mobile but he reads the game superbly and organises those around him really well.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 27, 2017, 02:39:33 pm
Graham Carey incoming from Plymouth apparently (could be just Kevin Gage winding people up). Looks like a decent midfielder (Gagey says combination of Hodges and Whitehouse!). :^^

CW said today that Brooks not going to Chessie was "right for this club", "..he kicked on in the summer so things changed.".  Keeping the option to loan him to Chessie open, he won't go anywhere else (though I think he means "on loan".  "Brooksy is back with us and we'll move on from there.". Nothing to suggest Brooks is going anywhere, unless CW is even better than we thought at the politics. 

On Brayford - "he's available". "Don't see John being part of the plan but he's still our player. If no interest or deal to be done he'll be in the mix."

On Holmes and Leonard. "Come the end of this week we'll either get something done or we'll move on.".




Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on June 27, 2017, 05:51:06 pm
Alex Bruce training with the Blades to "improve his fitness"

New CB along with EEL return? Wilson on his bike?

Brayford's on his way out the door as well

Jake Wright offered a new deal, so his "never been on the losing side" record will be broken in his first game  :roll:

Seriously, I like Wright, not the most mobile but he reads the game superbly and organises those around him really well.

Wright has signed the new deal on offer.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on June 27, 2017, 08:09:58 pm
Graham Carey incoming from Plymouth apparently (could be just Kevin Gage winding people up). Looks like a decent midfielder (Gagey says combination of Hodges and Whitehouse!). :^^

Apparently he's out of contract so would be a freebee......
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 28, 2017, 03:48:15 pm
On Brooks, the deal's been cancelled because:

1. He did so well for England he might be good enough after all so we might not need to sign another wide man, OR

2. £2m is a lot of money for a player who hasn't yet played a full first-team league match
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on June 28, 2017, 06:20:21 pm
Encouraging that Everton now say they're not interested. I'd like to see Brooks given a proper run in the side. Saves a transfer acquisition headache for CW and saves a few bob for the tightwads ("game changing" investment my arse)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on June 30, 2017, 10:13:43 am
Carey has signed a new deal with Plymouth so that's not happening - yet...

According to Twitter, Leonard has flown to Spain for pre-season training with Southend.  Doesn't mean he's staying, but it does mean CW's deadline of completing deals this week is going to slip by.

Spurs and Man City have opened talks re transfer of Walker.  If this goes ahead, we should buy Holmes and Leonard for whatever price they can't refuse and send them on loan to Southend's nearest rivals Millwall just to piss them off.  :DD

Regarding Brooks, it's good that Everton aren't interested (yet) but we're going to come under pressure to sell him, especially if he does get in the first team and does well.

However, if you look at what's happened with Walker we should try to keep him for longer.  OK - I'm not deluded enough to think we could keep Brooks long enough until he's worth 30-40m, but we could sell him soon for 2m plus a sell on fee, or we could hold on to him until he's worth 6, 7 or even 10m and still get a sell on fee in the contract.

I get why we're a selling club and accept we always will be, but what I don't get is the eagerness to cash in too soon when it's obvious the value of the asset is only going to increase.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on June 30, 2017, 05:59:41 pm
Why are we even going for Holmes, he's 30 ffs and isn't he a striker/winger? surely at 30 he's on the down turn for a winger, and we already have a 30 yr old striker and he's only played lower lge football. Surely if he was any good he'd have played higher by now, let's go for younger and hungrier player from a higher lge.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 01, 2017, 09:53:26 am
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/sheffield-united-chris-wilder-receives-a-transfer-guarantee-1-8626032

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 01, 2017, 01:46:47 pm
The pigs are about to pay 1m for a 31 year old winger from Burnley.  :DD :DD :DD

Why are we even going for Holmes, he's 30 ffs and isn't he a striker/winger? surely at 30 he's on the down turn for a winger, and we already have a 30 yr old striker and he's only played lower lge football. Surely if he was any good he'd have played higher by now, let's go for younger and hungrier player from a higher lge.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 01, 2017, 01:59:56 pm
BTW - could Brooks be our best "incoming" of the close season? If he can replicate the football he played in the Toulon Tournament against men at Championship level - he could have more of an impact on our season than any clubs' signings so far.

Until McCabe goes and sells him for a walnut whip and a Texan bar.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 03, 2017, 01:52:31 pm
Blades sign French Man Utd player..........

on a scholarship!

Jean Leroy Belehouan, 17. He'll be a start for our U-23s in 2022, you mark my words
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 04, 2017, 03:30:30 pm
Two offers for Blackburn defender Darragh Lenihan rejected.  Make a proper one then... Why is it other teams always seem to break our resolve when they want our players, but we can never seem to do it the other way round?

Anyone know who he is btw?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 04, 2017, 03:57:29 pm
Two offers for Blackburn defender Darragh Lenihan rejected.  Make a proper one then... Why is it other teams always seem to break our resolve when they want our players, but we can never seem to do it the other way round?

Anyone know who he is btw?

I've never heard of him so we probably have made a proper offer..........remember, " we won't spunk away moneh"
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 04, 2017, 04:01:56 pm
George Long signed for Wimbledon, season-long loan
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 05, 2017, 12:25:08 pm
I actually think that's a good move for both clubs.....and George
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 05, 2017, 01:59:22 pm
Agreed mate. Needs experience and a rebuilding of confidence.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 05, 2017, 02:07:41 pm
Agreed mate. Needs experience and a rebuilding of confidence.

And the chance to play in front of several thousand less fans calling him all sorts and ironically cheering every time he catches the ball........
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 05, 2017, 03:18:23 pm
Agreed mate. Needs experience and a rebuilding of confidence.

And the chance to play in front of several thousand less fans calling him all sorts and ironically cheering every time he catches the ball........

You clearly have a problem with good old Yorkshire 'encouragement and motivation' techniques
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 05, 2017, 05:40:00 pm
Agreed mate. Needs experience and a rebuilding of confidence.

And the chance to play in front of several thousand less fans calling him all sorts and ironically cheering every time he catches the ball........

You clearly have a problem with good old Yorkshire 'encouragement and motivation' techniques

You are quite right Landlord...........the soft lad needs to grow a pair  ;)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 05, 2017, 06:42:38 pm
Besides, he's STILL 4 years from the age at which he'll become a good 'keeper  :whi

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 06, 2017, 01:26:15 pm
Richard Stearman signs for a 'substantial' (bit more than a Bazooka Joe then!) fee on a 3 year contract.

Now that's a signing I do like and would certainly prefer to these EEL rumours.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 06, 2017, 03:43:35 pm
What a cracking signing that is!

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 07, 2017, 12:27:51 pm
Good signing. OK, so he's 30 next month, but that's no bad age for a centre back, especially when he's got O'Connell and Bash or Wright alongside (assuming a back 3).

He's supposed to be good at bringing the ball out of defence (as all our CBs have to be and are) and he wears his heart on his sleeve. He'll fit in nicely.

I know I shouldn't rise to it, but the Pigs keeping going on about how poor our signings have been.  Frankly it just shows how deluded they are.  For us, anything above the bottom 3 counts as a step forward.  For them, if they don't finish in the top 2 or win the play off final it's a sideways move at best, or even a backwards move.

Now considering the teams who are expected to be around and about us, I think our signings, together with current squad and management, are at the top end of that group.

The pigs however have bought an old woman whilst there are 6 or 7 teams who have made a number of excellent signings for this level... Frankly, the pressure is on the pigs and I for one am going to enjoy seeing them get egg all over their piggy faces - Mmmm bacon and eggs...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 07, 2017, 05:06:30 pm
Roma, what they fail to realise is that we already had a core of players who have played a lot of championship games or higher and adding Stearman has strengthened that core. Then you look at the young lads like Curruthers and Lavery who will relish the challenge and I think we'll do alright, ok i'm not expecting top 2 or even top 6 but I think with CWs style we'll hold our own and he has time to add more quality. Sharp, Clarke, Lavery, Hanson and Evans are surely good enough up front and if they are not CW won't mess about, he'll replace them.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 10, 2017, 03:37:09 pm
So Holmes has decided to sign a new deal at League 1 Charlton rather than be part of a team that has PL potential. Clearly he's not the CW-type after all.

To be honest, the way Brooks is developing, do we need him anyway? Brooks, Duffy and Thomas can all play wide
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 10, 2017, 05:18:44 pm
So Holmes has decided to sign a new deal at League 1 Charlton rather than be part of a team that has PL potential. Clearly he's not the CW-type after all.

To be honest, the way Brooks is developing, do we need him anyway? Brooks, Duffy and Thomas can all play wide

I'm not that bothered that he has decided to stay @ Charlton. It means that CW has money to spend elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 11, 2017, 09:14:20 am
I would prefer to sign Leonard than Holmes to be honest.  I agree we have some good players in that position (Holmes') anyway, with Brooks looking like he could be the surprise package of the season for us (if we can keep him).

To be fair to Holmes though, at least he's shown some loyalty to his club (admittedly for a pay rise and a contract that runs until he's probably too old to play) but loyalty none-the-less.  We'd be praising Billy Sharp if he'd signed his contract despite being actively pursued by a team a division up.

And as someone already stated, there was no way CW was going to allow that top knot!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 11, 2017, 07:41:53 pm
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/893397307?-295:800:0#out

Just do a Charlton, say NO!!!!!!!!

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/sheffield-united-reportedly-handed-lifeline-in-chase-of-celtics/
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 12, 2017, 07:05:45 am
So young  Reed has gone on loan to Chesterfield. I think this is a good move. He needs consistent game time to show exactly what he's capable of and I think he'd get eaten alive in the Championship right now.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 12, 2017, 09:45:21 am
Reed needs regular first-team football. I like him, he has a good pass on him, and I think he'd do much better in a progressive forward-thinking team like ours, but I have a feeling he's going to get left behind as we progress.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 12, 2017, 09:53:56 am
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/893397307?-295:800:0#out

Just do a Charlton, say NO!!!!!!!!

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/sheffield-united-reportedly-handed-lifeline-in-chase-of-celtics/

Couldn't get the top link to work? Who's trying to sign who?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 12, 2017, 03:13:01 pm
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/893397307?-295:800:0#out

Just do a Charlton, say NO!!!!!!!!

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/sheffield-united-reportedly-handed-lifeline-in-chase-of-celtics/

Couldn't get the top link to work? Who's trying to sign who?

Old news - Everton in for Brooks. Hopefully this is just lazy regurgitated news.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 12, 2017, 04:48:31 pm
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/893397307?-295:800:0#out

Just do a Charlton, say NO!!!!!!!!

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/sheffield-united-reportedly-handed-lifeline-in-chase-of-celtics/

Couldn't get the top link to work? Who's trying to sign who?

Old news - Everton in for Brooks. Hopefully this is just lazy regurgitated news.

Me too...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 13, 2017, 09:45:06 am
We've got him doing press interviews now.  Either we're trying to make him feel part of the club to keep him  :^^, or we're trying to get him out there and in the shop window... )O(
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 13, 2017, 04:50:59 pm
Man City sign Walker.

We're due £5m. That's 2 year's wages for Jagielka even on his current deal!!

So....offer him £1m signing on, £30k a week, and there's £1m left over to add to what's already in the kitty (ie about 35p)

 :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 14, 2017, 08:25:41 am
I wouldn't spunk that much on Jags.  Assuming a two year deal we'd be looking at 4m for two years.

Also, I think Everton would push for Brooks in exchange which isn't a road I want us to start going down.

That said, if we could get Jags on a free, then pay him 30k a week for a year (i.e. 1.5m) with a place in the coaching setup at the end of it - I think he might consider that.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 14, 2017, 09:58:04 am
Man City sign Walker.

We're due £5m. That's 2 year's wages for Jagielka even on his current deal!!

So....offer him £1m signing on, £30k a week, and there's £1m left over to add to what's already in the kitty (ie about 35p)

 :ok:

Except it's not quite......it needs all the add ons to be activated to reach this value and we dint get the money all up front and my grandmas toe nails need cutting by a specialist African voodoo doctor and she'll need to travel first class..............just pre-empting the responses from the club.......

I like Roma's idea of the carrot with the coaching role (if that's what he wants of course - no point offering him a carrot if he really wants asparagus.........)

Sod it, if Terry can sign for villa, why can't we splash the cash on Jags..........I'd love to see him back at the Lane

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 14, 2017, 11:02:34 am
There have been hints of a proper marquee signing (yeah McCabe's bought a big tent) and things have gone a bit quiet. This "free" money surely gives us the chance to nail one or two serious names, and Jags still has a good couple of years in him yet. Jags, Stearman, O'Connell at the back with Wright as able deputy? Sorted!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 14, 2017, 12:01:37 pm
Well we certainly won't be getting EEL (thankfully) - He's signed for MK Dons on a season long loan - anyone think Wolves may have offered him a new contract to screw a bit of extra money out of us and CW said B*ll*x - it backfired and they've had to loan him out again  :DD :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 14, 2017, 04:05:29 pm
Well we certainly won't be getting EEL (thankfully) - He's signed for MK Dons on a season long loan - anyone think Wolves may have offered him a new contract to screw a bit of extra money out of us and CW said B*ll*x - it backfired and they've had to loan him out again  :DD :DD

Strange one that isn't it? They clearly don't want him, and now we have Stearman and £4.5m CW isn't going to be screwed over. Like you I'm not disappointed. None of our Championship rivals have been keen to sign him obviously.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 14, 2017, 07:25:10 pm
Well we certainly won't be getting EEL (thankfully) - He's signed for MK Dons on a season long loan - anyone think Wolves may have offered him a new contract to screw a bit of extra money out of us and CW said B*ll*x - it backfired and they've had to loan him out again  :DD :DD

Strange one that isn't it? They clearly don't want him, and now we have Stearman and £4.5m CW isn't going to be screwed over. Like you I'm not disappointed. None of our Championship rivals have been keen to sign him obviously.

 My thoughts exactly.....
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 15, 2017, 10:55:46 am
According to Sky Sports this morning, we've had a 3rd bid turned down by a Blackburn for Lenihan 
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 15, 2017, 11:51:10 pm
They know we have had a £4.5m windfall
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 16, 2017, 10:52:43 am
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/boost-for-sheffield-united-as-key-target-hands-in-transfer-request/
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 16, 2017, 10:55:08 am
Rumour has it he favours Millwall for some bizarre reason...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 16, 2017, 06:23:28 pm
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/16/report-sheffield-united-submit-bid-for-oxford-united-midfielder/
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 17, 2017, 07:08:57 am
Blackburn fans going crazy on social media re our bids for Lenihan.  Rumour has it we've had a 3rd bid for 2m turned down and that their asking price is between 3-4m (quite a big range there in real terms!) and that a 4th bid is likely.

I can't see us paying that much for anyone at the moment, never mind a CB from a League One side.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 17, 2017, 09:49:38 am
Now he's retracted his transfer request.

If I was CW I'd move on now.  He either doesn't know what he wants or he's taking the piss out of both us and his current club.

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/15414510.Leonard_turns_down_new_deal_at_Blues_but_retracts_transfer_request/
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 17, 2017, 09:56:28 am
Rumour on Twitter: Fleck to Bournemouth.  Apparently 2+2=5 as Eddie Howe watched the game the other night in Spain and left when Fleck was subbed.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 17, 2017, 02:58:11 pm
Leonard didn't actually submit a transfer request in the end. At the meeting to discuss it, and other options, he was going to put the request in, but the Chairman told him not to bother because he's under contract and that's the end of it unless they decide to let him go, in which case he may as well sit tight and take his 15% if a deal ends up getting done. That's direct, horse's mouth, from Brown's sunbed supplier  ;D.

Of course this is all showboating to make sure the get the best price possible, but Leonard wants out, he wants to be playing Championship football next season, and if we want him that badly we need to meet the valuation that the Chairman has in mind, otherwise move on. Leonard's happy with Millwall ot the Blades, but he's definitely looking for a move.

Ben Reeves - very tidy player. Why is he still a free agent when us, Charlton and Bolton are all supposedly chasing him?

Lundstram - £500k bid so far.

After the initial flurry this window's a bit like pulling teeth. We're constantly linked with midfielders yet we need a CB, a keeper, and CW is after another striker (or 2!) but it's all gone a bit quiet.



"Rumour on Twitter".......... don't need to add anything after that mate  :roll:

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 17, 2017, 04:12:07 pm
Just heard the interview with the pigmaster general

They're struggling to bring in CBs because the prices they're quoted are too high and they have to stay within FFP.

What? 50,000 people paying £50 a ticket every week and they can't afford the price that Cardiff want for a CB?

Bollocks - Tuna Man's decided he's put enough in. Especially after the Rhodes deal  :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 17, 2017, 04:33:09 pm
Blackburn fans going crazy on social media re our bids for Lenihan.  Rumour has it we've had a 3rd bid for 2m turned down and that their asking price is between 3-4m (quite a big range there in real terms!) and that a 4th bid is likely.

I can't see us paying that much for anyone at the moment, never mind a CB from a League One side.

I have a friend who is a Blackburn season ticket holder and he laughed when I said it is rumoured that we have bid £2m for him, and what they wanted. He said he is not worth £1m. He is not a regular starter and he doesn't think he is good enough for the Championship.

He did say, probably tongue in cheek, that the whole squad is not wrth £2m.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 17, 2017, 06:07:16 pm
According to Sky Sports this morning, we've had a 3rd bid turned down by a Blackburn for Lenihan

could be a very good if very expensive signing

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 17, 2017, 07:43:06 pm
Could it be all smoke and mirrors from CW, rumours and links of his targets and then bringing in someone from out of left field? i.e. Stearman!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 17, 2017, 07:55:18 pm
Could it be all smoke and mirrors from CW, rumours and links of his targets and then bringing in someone from out of left field? i.e. Stearman!

Well lets be honest Stearman wasn't mentioned by anyone.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 17, 2017, 10:27:32 pm
dead right there mate
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 18, 2017, 08:50:50 am
Assombalonga to 'Boro for £14m !!

To be honest, if we'd got him and paid £1m I wouldn't be over-excited. He's never looked that good when he's played against us in the past.

The transfer market's gone mad. £10m for Rhodes and £14m for Assombalonga, and I reckon Evans might outscore both of them.




Good to see Sharp, Bash, Coutts and Freeman all signing new deals.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 18, 2017, 06:58:34 pm
Good to see Sharp, Bash, Coutts and Freeman all signing new deals.

Was going to say - nice to see us signing 4 Championship standard players today!! God there's some moaning buggers out there on other forums!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 18, 2017, 09:05:49 pm
Completely stopped going anywhere near other forums

As you suggest mate, if we'd signed these 4 AFTER arriving in the Championship no-one would be moaning.

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 19, 2017, 10:53:33 pm
Lundstram deal done ? (Rumour it'll be finalised Thursday)

If so, do we still pursue Leonard?

Aren't they both CMF?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 20, 2017, 07:36:19 am
If this goes through (and I think the source is the Oxford manager so it's very likely to be true) then it's two-fingers up to Southend and Leonard.  Sod them, plenty more players out there.  I hope Leonard now stays and goes for free to Carlisle at the end of his current contract next year.

Lundstram deal done ? (Rumour it'll be finalised Thursday)

If so, do we still pursue Leonard?

Aren't they both CMF?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 20, 2017, 06:46:02 pm
Southend will realise they screwed up, and tell Millwall they can have him after all
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 21, 2017, 09:36:42 am
Haven't seen anything official yet, but interesting tweet from Jim White

https://twitter.com/jimw1/status/888030363813130240
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 21, 2017, 04:38:12 pm
Another rumour re David Brooks.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/894790286?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 21, 2017, 06:33:45 pm
£15m is about right though I guess  8)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 21, 2017, 08:10:44 pm
 :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

Simon Moore carried off on a stretcher tonight v Rotherham  )O( )O( )O( )O( )O(

Need to sign a feckin good keeper pronto!!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 21, 2017, 09:42:04 pm
Yeah, young eastwood might be promising but he isn't a starter yet.

According to the match review Moore injured his knee. Hopefully he won't be out too long but he might struggle for the opener!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 22, 2017, 08:27:25 am
Could we recall Long from Wimbledon if needed? Not ideal, but if we can't recruit someone he would probably be slightly better than Eastwood.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 22, 2017, 06:36:23 pm
I think we need an established, experienced keeper Bolts. Long has some way to go before he's Championship quality
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 23, 2017, 06:49:05 am
I think we need an established, experienced keeper Bolts. Long has some way to go before he's Championship quality

Long has some way to go to be a 'good' league 1 keeper!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 23, 2017, 08:40:19 am
I think we need an established, experienced keeper Bolts. Long has some way to go before he's Championship quality

I agree, but if CW can't get in an experienced keeper, if needed, do we go with Eastwood or try to get Long back?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 23, 2017, 01:10:46 pm
I think we need an established, experienced keeper Bolts. Long has some way to go before he's Championship quality

I agree, but if CW can't get in an experienced keeper, if needed, do we go with Eastwood or try to get Long back?

Def go with Eastwood if we have to - I'm sorry but Long cannot cope with the pressure at BDTBL and too many of our so called fans will just give him a hard time as soon as he steps onto the pitch.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 23, 2017, 05:51:49 pm
Jason Steele - Blackburn Keeper???

Just saying.............. :whi :whi :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 23, 2017, 08:40:12 pm
Jason Steele - Blackburn Keeper???

Just saying.............. :whi :whi :whi

Appropriate name  :)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 23, 2017, 08:42:33 pm
Any road up, what's happened to John Lundstrum? Thought it was a done deal and would be announced last Thurs? Maybe we are waiting to unveil him alongside Lenihan and Leonard at the same time?  :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on July 24, 2017, 11:33:46 am
Any road up, what's happened to John Lundstrum? Thought it was a done deal and would be announced last Thurs? Maybe we are waiting to unveil him alongside Lenihan and Leonard at the same time?  :whi

I was thinking that too. CW said the player wanted to come and it had "gone upstairs", I assume meaning our board for approval, and then the day after he said the offer had been accepted.  I guess they're just waiting on the medical and personal terms which must be happening today or tomorrow?

On the keeper from, with Boro signing West Sham's reserve keeper, Ripley could be available.  If you look around, there are plenty of quality, experienced "reserve" keepers available, question is can we afford the wages?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 24, 2017, 03:27:59 pm
We should be able to afford the wages mate for a decent championship keeper or PL 3rd-in-line on a loan deal?


Apparently we've enquired about Freddie Woodman from Newcastle
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 25, 2017, 06:45:11 pm
Lundstrom confirmed then.

So 'keeper, CB and Striker left  :D
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 25, 2017, 06:55:34 pm
Lundstrom confirmed then.

So 'keeper, CB and Striker left  :D

Just beat me to it. Isn't it refreshing getting things done before the season kicks off!!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 25, 2017, 07:01:47 pm
Bloody great mate

To correct my mis-spelling, it's Lundstram
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on July 25, 2017, 07:15:36 pm
What's he like?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 25, 2017, 07:59:49 pm
Bloody great mate

To correct my mis-spelling, it's Lundstram

Shouldn't you be in the pub by now?

Stabo - very useful player - only got to read what the U's fans say about him.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 25, 2017, 10:07:44 pm
Didn't sign in time to play tonight

Vamps as it was just Molly and me I had a few sherbets at the Beer House earlier and then a trio of Jaipurs at home pre-match.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 26, 2017, 04:32:01 pm
Has anyone heard of this rumour??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/895444976?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 26, 2017, 05:05:19 pm
Has anyone heard of this rumour??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/895444976?-295:800:0

Saw that mate, completely out of the blue. Slightly worrying factor is he's never played outside Egypt. BDTBL on a Tuesday night in February? He'll think the world's ending.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on July 26, 2017, 05:17:50 pm
Has anyone heard of this rumour??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/895444976?-295:800:0

Saw that mate, completely out of the blue. Slightly worrying factor is he's never played outside Egypt. BDTBL on a Tuesday night in February? He'll think the world's ending.

Can't see him being a CW type of player to be honest.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 26, 2017, 08:26:04 pm
Has anyone heard of this rumour??


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/895444976?-295:800:0

Saw that mate, completely out of the blue. Slightly worrying factor is he's never played outside Egypt. BDTBL on a Tuesday night in February? He'll think the world's ending.

Can't see him being a CW type of player to be honest.

Gotta agree Donkey.........
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 27, 2017, 06:06:03 pm
Jamal Blackman signed on loan from Chelsea. We needed a keeper and feck me we have one!

Had a great season at Wycombe last year, played almost every game. Top signing once again CW!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 28, 2017, 08:38:53 am
Jamal Blackman signed on loan from Chelsea. We needed a keeper and feck me we have one!

Had a great season at Wycombe last year, played almost every game. Top signing once again CW!

I hope you are right Lings.

Playing in the Championship will be a lot different to League 2. He has little experience at this level, and, in my humble opinion, I think we need an experienced keeper who has played at this level. Lets hope Moore will be back quickly.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on July 28, 2017, 08:52:25 am
Understood Bolts, but I think it's a bit different for keepers. It doesn't matter what League you're in, if a 25-yarder's heading for the top corner it needs stopping, same with crosses into the box. He has a full season of first-team experience and Chelsea obviously saw enough to give him a new 4 year contract.

I must say though, Eastwood's had 2 very good games since Moore's injury, and if he does so again at Eastleigh he'll be pushing Blackman for a starting place (but I guess Chelsea will have made certain demands about game time during the loan?)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on July 28, 2017, 09:41:47 am
Understood Bolts, but I think it's a bit different for keepers. It doesn't matter what League you're in, if a 25-yarder's heading for the top corner it needs stopping, same with crosses into the box. He has a full season of first-team experience and Chelsea obviously saw enough to give him a new 4 year contract.

I must say though, Eastwood's had 2 very good games since Moore's injury, and if he does so again at Eastleigh he'll be pushing Blackman for a starting place (but I guess Chelsea will have made certain demands about game time during the loan?)

Eastwood is probaby not the solution this early in his career, although he has performed admirably in the pre-season games. A few bad games will shatter his confidence.

I have no doubt that Chelsea will have some stipulations in the loan deal. This is what does make a mockery of the whole system.

Is there any news on how long Moore will be out? They seem to be keeping very quiet on the extent of the injury.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on July 28, 2017, 11:51:00 am
He's a really big unit, an England Uxx regularly from the 16's upwards and very highly regarded so I think this is an excellent addition. I think he'll be good both for Eastwood and Moore - I actually think he'll push Moore for a starting spot. I haven't seen Eastwood play, so can't comment, but one thing we saw from CW last season was that he plays the players in form........Given the the way Chelsea loans work, I suspect we're not paying a lot for him either. All round good business IMHO

On Moore's injury, I spoke to him yesterday - either he's keeping it under wraps or been told to stay tight lipped (possible given we've been on the look-out for a keeper) but the story he gave was he's still waiting for scan results (personally, I actually think this is unlikely in modern day and the level of care/support the clubs buy privately, but given he was good enough to talk to me I wasn't gonna call him a liar!). He did however say he was hoping it was a case of weeks rather than months.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 02, 2017, 11:33:42 am
Heard on the grapevine that we've offered 1.5m for Lenihan but Blackburn also turned this one down. Apologies if you've already discussed this - just back from my jollies.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 04, 2017, 11:43:49 am
So Matty Done heads back to Rochdale......I don't think he ever really had a good crack at it here, but I'm also not convinced he suited our style of play......

There was a time I thought him and Sharp we're starting to form a bit of a partnership but it never quite seemed right...........bit like that feeling you get when an old Aunt see's you at a family wedding and comes in for the kiss and the comment 'my look how you've grown up'!!!

Good luck Matt - hope you go back to being as big a success there as you were before. Was always a 110%er.

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 05, 2017, 09:08:54 am
Always liked Done but he always seemed to be neither a winger nor a striker. A league higher we need specialists in both positions
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 11, 2017, 12:59:37 pm
So CW has confirmed we've made an offer for Coady.  Wolves fans insisting that had we made the offer before the start of the season he'd have been sold but now he's the number one on the team sheet at CB and captain.

Considering we've only played one game this season, I think that's a bit presumptuous but I guess I see where they're coming from.

Not seen what we've offered.  Perhaps this is just rhetoric and a final shot over Leonard's bows?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 11, 2017, 07:46:31 pm
Roma that's my thoughts....make a big thing about offering for a player we can't get so the Southend Board might think about accepting the last bid for Leonard.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 22, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
Freeman to Huddersfield?

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 22, 2017, 03:20:04 pm
Freeman to Huddersfield?

Heard that whispered last week - has this been in the offing a while and explains why he's not been on his game quite so well as last year?
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on August 25, 2017, 04:51:42 pm
Latest rumour....

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/899458066?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 25, 2017, 09:34:35 pm
Heard that myself Bolts. PL experience, fast, black, ticks boxes  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 26, 2017, 06:30:09 am
Heard that myself Bolts. PL experience, fast, black, ticks boxes  :ok:

I don't want him to tick boxes, I want him to score from them - and outside them!!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on August 26, 2017, 08:44:22 am
Heard that myself Bolts. PL experience, fast, black, ticks boxes  :ok:

But doesn't score a great deal from his stats. I know that they aren't the be all and end all, but they do provide a guide. He only played 17 times in all competitions.

I remember when we signed TC from Watford, and everyone said who the fuck is he. Maybe things can happen twice.

He was on loan at Birmingham from January, but only played 5 times. He only played 17 times in all competitions.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 26, 2017, 06:06:03 pm
Birmingham were tragic as a team last season so I wouldn't worry about that.

Watford have been through more managers than Ched's been through Rhyl slappers so in a totally unsettled squad no-one shone. Even Deeney had a poor season.

CW will want to bring out the best of a player who was touted for great things at Liverpool, and no doubt the player has something to prove to a lot of people or his slide down the leagues will continue
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 27, 2017, 10:30:47 pm
The Stir suggesting the Sinclair transfer is practically a done deal, though they don't say whether it'd be a loan or permanent.

I think he'd be a good signing. As someone said, ticks most of the boxes and with Lavery looking like he's going to be out for at least a couple of weeks after the clash of heads on Saturday, we're in dire need of cover up front.

He's only 20 and sounds like one of those academy wonderkids who isn't quite Premiership quality and so doesn't get enough game time to develop and prove himself.

Coming from Watford, it'll be a step up coming to us in terms of atmosphere at home games (  :whi ) so it might help bring the best out in him, and we all know CW has a track record of that.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on August 27, 2017, 10:39:11 pm
The Stir suggesting the Sinclair transfer is practically a done deal, though they don't say whether it'd be a loan or permanent.

I think he'd be a good signing. As someone said, ticks most of the boxes and with Lavery looking like he's going to be out for at least a couple of weeks after the clash of heads on Saturday, we're in dire need of cover up front.

He's only 20 and sounds like one of those academy wonderkids who isn't quite Premiership quality and so doesn't get enough game time to develop and prove himself.

Coming from Watford, it'll be a step up coming to us in terms of atmosphere at home games (  :whi ) so it might help bring the best out in him, and we all know CW has a track record of that.

It'll be a loan I think, they paid £4M for him from Liverpool. As for Lavery I think he fractured his cheekbone with a clash of heads, it looked pretty nasty I must say so expect him to be out longer
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on August 28, 2017, 08:36:50 am
I hope there is no truth or substance in this one.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/899695850?-295:800:0
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on August 28, 2017, 09:03:20 am
I hope there is no truth or substance in this one.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/899695850?-295:800:0

I can't think why O'Connell would want to go to Villa, or any other Championship club at the moment. He is developing well and improving with The Blades under CW and there is a really good feel good factor around the place right now. He is a fans' favourire as well so a big gamble for him leaving. I could maybe understand it if a Prem club came in for him but even then I think it would be a bad move at the moment.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 28, 2017, 03:54:12 pm
I hope there is no truth or substance in this one.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/899695850?-295:800:0

When you actually read that it's not even a transfer rumour - it's someone expressing an opinion about who Bruce should go for - well no Brucey Bonus here Stevieboy!!!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 28, 2017, 07:50:08 pm
Typical click farm story

Aston Villa are heading the same way we did a few years back. SUFC are on the up. O'Connell is heading for better things, either with us, or to the PL. Not to a struggling side under a workaday huff and puff manager.

Jack The Hat stays at BDTBL
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 30, 2017, 06:24:58 pm
Tick Tock....

Someone tell the BDTBL Brass no-one uses fax machines any more

PLEASE get a striker in before the deadline. I guess the loan window opens in a week but surely you bust a gut to get someone in now while there's an international break and get him up to speed with how we play?


Alex Bruce released from his non-contract terms at Bury, with CW a known admirer. #justsayin
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 30, 2017, 09:21:18 pm
I thought that (about Bruce) too mate.  Released so he can "take up one of the many offers from clubs".
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 30, 2017, 09:23:02 pm
Pigs have signed Arfa Plaja from Atletico Madrid for 14m.  :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 30, 2017, 09:36:24 pm
Pigs have signed Arfa Plaja from Atletico Madrid for 14m.  :DD

you're not helping mate!  ;D
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 31, 2017, 08:32:40 am
Domingos Quina, 17-year-old midfielder from West Ham ???
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on August 31, 2017, 10:39:30 am
Domingos Quina, 17-year-old midfielder from West Ham ???

A little unexpected in terms of age, 1st team experience and a position that is not a priority for us. However, he seems very highly rated and the thought of him and Brooks running at defences sounds pretty exciting  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 31, 2017, 12:07:42 pm
Bids in for Devante Cole and John Egan too
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on August 31, 2017, 02:01:53 pm
Jota signing for Brum for 6m - sounds a good price in today's mental market.

As for us, we need that striker in with Lavery out for a couple of months - very sparse cover up front - not convinced that would be best place for Brooks.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 31, 2017, 06:18:22 pm
If anyone wants me I'll be hiding under the duvet and will pop back out when transfer deadline day is over!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on August 31, 2017, 08:57:44 pm
Ha ha - we can't have Lenihan so Chrissy Wilder sticks 2 fingers up at Blackburn!!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 31, 2017, 09:14:17 pm
Nice work CW!

Now - a goalscorer please
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on August 31, 2017, 10:32:13 pm
Domingos Quina, 17-year-old midfielder from West Ham ???

Deal not happening, called off.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 01, 2017, 06:00:55 am
Nice work CW!

Now - a goalscorer please

Will Clayton Donaldson do??

Personally, I like that as a signing. Not quite got the pace we wanted anymore, but he knows this league inside out and knows where the old onion bag is. I also suspect that when he's fit, Evans and Donaldson will make a great partnership. Suit each other's style of play.

Best knews of the window for me though - Brooks is a Blade!!


Domingos Quina, 17-year-old midfielder from West Ham ???

Deal not happening, called off.

Bloody agents. Glad Tufty wouldn't let us be held to ransom.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 01, 2017, 08:18:17 am
Must admit I'm a bit underwhelmed by the Donaldson signing after being excited by the potential to get Devante Cole in. Bit of a last-minute panic signing by the look of it but let's see, with our style of play he could get a bagfull. Maybe Jerome Sinclair might be added when the loan window opens, and maybe we go back for Cole in january.

Agreed on Brooks. Now make him a permanent fixture in the side.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on September 01, 2017, 08:48:22 am
Domingos Quina, 17-year-old midfielder from West Ham ???

Deal not happening, called off.

Reading between the lines, WHU wanted him to play games regularly. CW won't have any of that crap.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 01, 2017, 08:52:32 am
Must admit I'm a bit underwhelmed by the Donaldson signing after being excited by the potential to get Devante Cole in. Bit of a last-minute panic signing by the look of it but let's see, with our style of play he could get a bagfull. Maybe Jerome Sinclair might be added when the loan window opens, and maybe we go back for Cole in january.

Agreed on Brooks. Now make him a permanent fixture in the side.

Bit of hear-say and bit of 'flowering' from my usual sources but on the Cole deal I understand he had agreed terms and everything and it was his agent that screwed it all up with his fee demands - Cole not happy right now.

The Quina deal was again agreed on personal terms etc. and fell through because there was a late demand that he was given a guarantee starting spot - CW basically told him to do one (although I don't believe it was the player requesting this). I was told it was the parent club, but others have said it was his agent. 
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 01, 2017, 11:01:14 am
Cole would have been a great signing. We might do well with Sharp and Donaldson but I was hoping for a bit more youth, pace and energy upfront, hence the Cole deal would have fit the bill as he could then grow with us as we march to the PL  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on September 01, 2017, 12:45:26 pm
Not sure "panic" is in CW's vocabulary so don't think Clayton Donaldson was a panic buy.  However, I suspect when the Cole transfer fell through, CW had to react and go for one of his second choices who he knew would definitely sign.

Imagine if we'd reached midnight with no CF coming in, which with Lavery and Clarke out left us brutally exposed (I know Clarke is back after suspension but it brings home how little cover we had in that position). 

Is Donaldson the player he used to be, probably not.  Am I happier it's Donaldson as opposed to no cover up top? You bet... In Wilder we trust.  :ok:

I wouldn't be surprised to see a CF come in on loan shortly - maybe even Cole.  If a "loan-to-buy" arrangement works for PSG it'll work for the mighty.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 01, 2017, 01:13:04 pm
Not sure "panic" is in CW's vocabulary so don't think Clayton Donaldson was a panic buy.  However, I suspect when the Cole transfer fell through, CW had to react and go for one of his second choices who he knew would definitely sign.

Imagine if we'd reached midnight with no CF coming in, which with Lavery and Clarke out left us brutally exposed (I know Clarke is back after suspension but it brings home how little cover we had in that position). 

I actually think he was trying to bring both in - don't think it was one or the other listening to his interview from last night.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a CF come in on loan shortly - maybe even Cole.  If a "loan-to-buy" arrangement works for PSG it'll work for the mighty.

Have I completely mis-understood this - but thought the loan window was scrapped at the end of last season after pressure from FIFA. As I remember it Ian Holloway came out with a fantastic analogy about washing machines breaking down and having to walk around in dirty clothes, whilst Newcastle were OK cos they could afford to buy 2 washing machines at the start of the season  :DD :DD

There's some leeway in terms of goalkeepers, I believe, but that's about it. Only players we can sign are those that are out of contract and free agents.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 01, 2017, 06:24:03 pm
Fantastic read and shows exactly what they went through yesterday and just how close we were to signing Cole!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730888-a-day-in-the-life-of-sheffield-united-boss-chris-wilder-on-transfer-deadline-day
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 01, 2017, 06:53:54 pm
Minutes away again. Massively frustrating
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on September 02, 2017, 12:02:23 am
Fantastic read and shows exactly what they went through yesterday and just how close we were to signing Cole!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730888-a-day-in-the-life-of-sheffield-united-boss-chris-wilder-on-transfer-deadline-day

That's a great read and a real insight into the bollocks that is deadline day  :ok:

Shame about Cole, but there's always January  :^^ Although having said that, we might be able to attract much better players by then when we are looking good for promotion  :whi :whi :whi Oh shit, I'm feckin sober as well  :yikes:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: BoltonBlade on September 02, 2017, 08:48:14 am
Fantastic read and shows exactly what they went through yesterday and just how close we were to signing Cole!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2730888-a-day-in-the-life-of-sheffield-united-boss-chris-wilder-on-transfer-deadline-day

Thanks for that Vamps, a wonderful read.

Does highlight the power that agents have, unfortunately for us on this occasion.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on September 03, 2017, 02:27:32 pm
There is a video of that report on Facebook, which is a good watch. Turns out that Sinclair and Quina's agent is the same one and although deals and terms had been agreed between all parties, the agent decided last minute that he wanted his fees doubling, so Wilder told him to feck off!! Rightly so, but makes you wonder why and how these agents can get away with it and the players themselves can't just walk away and do their own thing. Of course they are tied into contracts with agents but it seems almost like a 3rd party ownership situation, which has to be wrong.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on September 04, 2017, 10:19:26 am
There's a business opportunity here.  Following the Branson model which disrupts the status quo in markets, someone could get a group of ex-pros together and start a "model" agency.  This agency would be different because it would have a clear mission, vision and set of values that are clear, honest and work equally for both the player and club and not the agent's own bank account.

I think with the current climate, players would flock to its books.

Using ex-pros would allow the agency to provide proper career advice to the players too.

The agency could also provide pensions and long-term investments, skills training etc for players, so that should their careers end early or not pan out the way they wished, they have something to fall back on.

Could even make it a not-for-profit and get the clubs to fund it...
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 04, 2017, 07:31:00 pm
Business Opportunity and not for profit??? - You're doing it all wrong Roma!!!  :DD :DD :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 04, 2017, 11:36:38 pm
Yeah I was with you right up to the not-for-profit part  :yikes:


I've had similar thoughts in the past. An agency that genuinely works for the client's best interests, taking an agreed % of the client's take, and offering a fixed fee on all player movements whether that's a fixed £ amount or a fixed % of the transfer fee. All this could be disclosed in advance in marketing info to the clubs, who would then become your best salesmen, because they'd be advising young players to hook up with this new agency.

Crossed Blades Sports Management  :ok:



Mind you we might get construed as being Muslim or Jewish only, when we let the market know we don't deal with pigs  :whi


Er....can I say that? Sorry m'lud it was the Malbec talking
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on September 05, 2017, 10:11:02 am
Business Opportunity and not for profit??? - You're doing it all wrong Roma!!!  :DD :DD :DD
There are other ways of extracting money from a business other than profits... Come on boys, get with the programme  :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on September 05, 2017, 10:17:41 am
The more I think about this the more appealing it seems. Working in football certainly appeals...  :ok:

We could offer a whole package including young player mentoring, helping them keep on the straight and narrow and make the right decisions in the interests of their career and future financial wellbeing.  Provide training and qualifications for them in case of catastrophic injury or natural end to their careers.  Investment idea on where to put the wages we get for them to build a nest egg for post-football.

We could even offer chaperones for the big superstars who don't warrant bodyguards yet.  They lurk unseen in the dark corners of night clubs and have a quiet word in the ear of the young star before he makes a fool of himself.  The insurance companies might be interested in that, offering lower premiums to clubs for looked after players, thereby covering some of the cost...

And as Lings said, our values and usp is that we're upfront and honest (Tufty approach) so all stakeholders know exactly what they're paying and getting.

We could get someone like Deano to front it, can't get more honest and trustworthy than him.  When's the first board meeting chaps.

PS: Totally disagree about not taking on pigs' business. We have a sister company who completely ruins them with bad deals... Headed by Warnock :ok: :cheer:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 05, 2017, 12:39:07 pm
Business Opportunity and not for profit??? - You're doing it all wrong Roma!!!  :DD :DD :DD
There are other ways of extracting money from a business other than profits... Come on boys, get with the programme  :whi

Now you're sounding like McCabe  :DD :whi
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 05, 2017, 03:26:30 pm
I'm in
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Eeyore on September 05, 2017, 07:57:10 pm
I'm in

Maybe as Director in charge of investment advice...............from far away in Zurich  :DD :DD  :ok: :ok:

Think I'll put myself up for Lifestyle Director....."stop being a silly twat and train harder or Lings will hurl abuse (and nuclear bovril) at you" :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 05, 2017, 10:40:25 pm
Yes, I'll manage the money  :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on September 06, 2017, 01:13:08 pm
Yes, I'll manage the money  :DD

Oh Christ - This Dragon says "I'm Out!"  :DD :DD
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on September 06, 2017, 01:36:23 pm
Business Opportunity and not for profit??? - You're doing it all wrong Roma!!!  :DD :DD :DD
There are other ways of extracting money from a business other than profits... Come on boys, get with the programme  :whi

Now you're sounding like McCabe  :DD :whi
Shit rumbled. There goes my plan for the new Stadium Roma, a 40,000 capacity olympic stadium and park in the heart of rural Suffolk.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on September 07, 2017, 09:09:50 pm
Yes, I'll manage the money  :DD

Oh Christ - This Dragon says "I'm Out!"  :DD :DD

How very dare you!  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on October 17, 2017, 03:02:19 pm
https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/report-credits-newcastle-and-west-ham-with-interest-in-20-year-old-sensation/

As if McCabe would even consider selling Brooks to West Sham...  :DD

I think a lot of these rumours come from lazy journalism as it's obvious teams will be keeping an eye on a talent like Brooks. 

Unless we do the unthinkable and get back to back promotions I can't see how we'll be able to keep him beyond this season and only hope we get a decent transfer fee for him - I'm talking in excess of 15 mil, maybe more if he keeps developing at this rate.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on October 17, 2017, 09:02:56 pm
Bloody excellent news that Brooks has signed a new 4 year contract today. Happy days!!
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on October 18, 2017, 09:49:19 am
HRH obviously pops into this excellent bar from time to time, to have a pull on a sheesha pipe of course not partake in the various alcoholic beverages on offer, and saw my post and thought "bloody hell I best get that Brooksy signed on a four year deal or I'll have the Crossed Blades lot after my blood!"...  :ok:

I don't think the extended deal makes him any more likely to stay with us beyond the end of this season (unless we're promoted of course) but I do believe it makes a move in January that little bit less likely and, if he did have his head turned by one of the big boys at some time soon, the transfer fee is likely to be 15 mill instead of 7 or 8...  If he keeps on developing the way he has this year, we could have our first 20mil player on our hands  :ok:
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Vamps on October 19, 2017, 05:26:49 am
HRH obviously pops into this excellent bar from time to time, to have a pull on a sheesha pipe of course not partake in the various alcoholic beverages on offer, and saw my post and thought "bloody hell I best get that Brooksy signed on a four year deal or I'll have the Crossed Blades lot after my blood!"...  :ok:

I don't think the extended deal makes him any more likely to stay with us beyond the end of this season (unless we're promoted of course) but I do believe it makes a move in January that little bit less likely and, if he did have his head turned by one of the big boys at some time soon, the transfer fee is likely to be 15 mill instead of 7 or 8...  If he keeps on developing the way he has this year, we could have our first 20mil player on our hands  :ok:

The clues were in Wilders interview - more than once he used the phrase “Immediate future”
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on November 02, 2017, 03:33:20 pm
There has been a debate on Twitter between Kevin Gage and a guy called @wit-xx about HRH's funds.

@witt-xx claims that there is no money for January and that HRH is struggling for cash now that he's sold his shares in Saudi Paper Company.

Now, at first I dismissed this guy's input as heresay.  Sure, HRH has sold his shares in the paper company as he had to to take up the government role, same as he had to resign as chairman of the mighty.  But, he must have made a fortune on the shares he sold and I'm sure he won't sit it in the bank gathering dust - he'll be reinvesting it (hopefully some of it in the aforementioned mighty).

Anyway, what now worries me is that there was a post by the Sheffield Star with a photo of CW and "his close friend" Wit-xx enjoying a champagne reception at the house of lords the day after the QPR game. This has got me thinking the worse case scenarios.  Is @witt-xx actually well connected and in the know? Has CW moaned to him about not having any money to spend?

Tell me I'm just being ultra-paranoid!!!!  :roll: :^^

Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on November 02, 2017, 04:45:09 pm
You're being ultra-paranoid.








....aren't you?

tbh get Devante Cole in and we'll be OK with what we've got
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on November 02, 2017, 06:02:16 pm
The Jan window will show our intent on this season, we have the team and depth to easily consolidate, but for me we need three quality players to cover, and give competition for places, for Fleck and Duffy and Cole to add to the forward options. We don't play as well without Fleck and Duffy and we don't have options for their absence.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on November 02, 2017, 11:53:35 pm
Stabs I don't think Carruthers has done anything wrong, Duffy is just having the best season of his life. I trust Carruthers, and also Duffy is the player keeping Brooks out of the starting 11 so there's another quality bit of cover.

I'm a great believer in not screwing up a tightly-knit group in the dressing room, so I think Cole would be a great addition, and I honestly can't think of anything else we need for now.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Staboblade on November 03, 2017, 06:39:34 pm
For me Curruthers isn't direct cover for Fleck but I agree he hasn't done nothing wrong. Duffy ATM is hard to replace he's on such good form and 'The Kid' is being deployed more up front of late. Cole or similar would add something to the forward line options. I'm sure CW has his eye on a couple of players and may even go back for the lad at Charlton in Jan.
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on November 03, 2017, 07:19:05 pm
I see Carruthers as cover for Duffy, Lundstrum cover for Fleck/Coutts although Bash is perfectly good there as defensive cover (I prefer him CB or CMF rather than makeshift wing back)
Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: Roma on November 07, 2017, 04:00:54 pm
I think Brooks is a more direct cover for Duffy, although I also like to see Brooks deployed as a false 10 (damn I used the term) when he comes on for Sharp.

Carruthers for me sits somewhere between Fleck and Duffy in terms of his ability and approach.

I can see Lundstrum as a (albeit not quite so effective) cover for Coutts.

But I can't see a direct cover for Fleck, which to be honest isn't surprising as he's one of those fairly unique players.  We could always put a cheeky bid in for Barry fucking Bannan as cover for Fleck. He'd do alright in our U23s until needed  :roll:

One player we haven't seen much of yet is Thomas.  He looks really promising and would love to see him develop into a first teamer, although I can't see where he would play as he's an out and out winger.  Maybe he can learn to adapt and play more central as cover for Duffy?

I'd also be looking at more cover for wing back.  We've seen how important this position is to our style of play and how vunerable we are to injuries in that position.  With the amount of work the WBs have to put in it's inevitible they're going to get knocks and strains.  So maybe a WB who can play left or right as cover (if such a thing exists - I played that role as a young man and it's true, I was equally shite left and right).

We also now need cover for Clarke... How about that fella playing in France - Neymar isn't it? He could learn alot as Leon's deputy  :ok:


Title: Re: 2017/2018 Transfer window thread
Post by: lingsbord on November 07, 2017, 09:04:33 pm
I think Brooks is a more direct cover for Duffy

Agreed Roma, which is why I said "Duffy is keeping Brooks out of the team"  ;D ;D

I agree on Thomas too - he looks a very capable player. Maybe he could cover for Fleck if he has a tackle in him? He seems a strange signing to be honest because we just don't use wingers.